Al Jazeera and the KKK

[Faulkner99]

Senator McCain, what was that you were saying last night about being proud of the wonderful people at your rallies? Was it this particular group of mouth breathers for which your heart swells with pride?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

[secular]

Senator McCain, what was that you were saying last night about being proud of the wonderful people at your rallies? Was it this particular group of mouth breathers for which your heart swells with pride?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

WOW! Racism alive and well in the US of A.

[jesslag]

You betcha he's proud of these patriotic caring Americans!!!!
Good Lord.Crap like that makes me want to cry. This is 2008 for crying out loud!

[KISSaholic4life]

Was this a McCain/Palin rally or a KKK rally?

[sascha_b]

Was this a McCain/Palin rally or a KKK rally?
Kind of hard to tell, isn't it.

[bamjammin]

I see a lot of ignorance and hatred in these people and no doubt there is some of the left side as well. However seeing how stuck in prehistoric times these people seem to be, I think Obama is at much greater risk from these dangerous individuals if elected than Mccain would be from what he would face on the extreme left side.

[psipsina]

I see a lot of ignorance and hatred in these people and no doubt there is some of the left side as well. However seeing how stuck in prehistoric times these people seem to be, I think Obama is at much greater risk from these dangerous individuals if elected than Mccain would be from what he would face on the extreme left side.

Most of the extremists on the left side are extreme tree huggers. The worst they do is blow up hummers and ram whaling ships. They don't tend to be into murder. The white supremacist groups in America have quite another history. While I know it is still alive and kicking it is painful every time I hear it expressed.

[KISSaholic4life]

From a Republican event just a few miles from my home today, a rally for Sen Norm Coleman (R) -


Todd Palin's visit to Hermantown today was brief and lacked the fiery rhetoric that his wife's rallies have become known for. Instead he used the event to promote re-electing Sen. Norm Coleman.

But there was still drama at the event. Before the speakers hit the stage, a crowd of pro-Obama supporters began a protest rally in the Gander Mountain parking lot, but were asked to leave by Hermantown police.

Police Chief Mike Anderson said the group was first asked to leave by Gander Mountain officials, but the group refused. After the police asked them to leave the protesters went up to the entry way of the store.

Obama supporter Mary Anderson said they were initially asked to leave by someone wearing a Coleman shirt.

"He said someone from the store told us to leave," she said.

Chris Hill, who was supporting Obama for the Carpenter's union, said he felt Gander Mountain was wrong to ask the group to leave.

"[The Palin rally] was a public rally and the public was invited," he said. "We were doing a peaceful protest."

Patrick Radzak was with a group of Teamsters for Obama, which were holding black and yellow signs.

"A Coleman supporter said your signs are the wrong color and so is your candidate," he said. "I told him that's why we're here."

Palin stumps for Coleman in brief Hermantown stop (http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/75969/group/home/)

[Beth]

Most of the extremists on the left side are extreme tree huggers. The worst they do is blow up hummers and ram whaling ships. They don't tend to be into murder. The white supremacist groups in America have quite another history. While I know it is still alive and kicking it is painful every time I hear it expressed.

Yep!

I go out of my way to be nice and kind to strangers of all colors and creeds.
I am a proud bleeding heart treehugger. I have been called out and verbally provoked to a fight by a father in my son's boy scout troop.
But why encourage the hate?
I really don't know any "haters" on the left side, but I know a few militant right.
Perhaps I am hanging with the wrong liberals to make such naive statement.

[sascha_b]

Considering the TrooperGate issue, doesn't it strike folks as odd that the VP candidate's spouse is campaigning? I don't know....would that be a first?

"I'm proud to be a part of the McCain-Palin ticket," he said.

Looks like conservatives could get two for the price of one. Odd.....

[Faulkner99]

Was this a McCain/Palin rally or a KKK rally?

Aren't they the same thing nowadays?

[KISSaholic4life]

Kind of hard to tell, isn't it.

Yup




Aren't they the same thing nowadays?


I'm beginning to think so.

[snookers]

I hope the FBI is keeping a close eye on these dangerous freaks.

[bidred73]

Crazies are on both sides of these elections. They are not the norm for either. I don't condone any of this. It is all vile and disgusting.

BTW.. nobody was outraged at the attire of Obama supporters.
Why not?


http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/obama-supporters-wearing-sarah-palin-is-a-c-tee-shirts/

Just told someone this morning that this stuff is gonna get worse in the next few weeks as we near the finale. Sad but true.

[snookers]

Crazies are on both sides of these elections. They are not the norm for either. I don't condone any of this. It is all vile and disgusting.

BTW.. nobody was outraged at the attire of Obama supporters.
Why not?


http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/obama-supporters-wearing-sarah-palin-is-a-c-tee-shirts/

Just told someone this morning that this stuff is gonna get worse in the next few weeks as we near the finale. Sad but true.
There's no comparison between t-shirts and white supremacists.

[CheckedOut]

geez, if mccain loses, i guess I wont be surprised if he rounds up these nuts and, with the palin's, secede from the union - confederacy style...

[Faulkner99]

Crazies are on both sides of these elections. They are not the norm for either. I don't condone any of this. It is all vile and disgusting.

BTW.. nobody was outraged at the attire of Obama supporters.
Why not?


http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/obama-supporters-wearing-sarah-palin-is-a-c-tee-shirts/

Just told someone this morning that this stuff is gonna get worse in the next few weeks as we near the finale. Sad but true.

Yeah, I don't think a handful of hipsters with poor judgment are really a threat. The word they use to describe her is clearly an insult, and possibly even a sexist insult (although I have used the word myself to describe certain people who have a Y chromosome), but it's nothing remotely as bad as what we're seeing at McCain rallies. I don't even know how you can compare the two.

I think the statement that it is on "both sides" is patently false. There are a handful of people on the Obama support side who cross the line by making derrogatory or sexist remarks, but day after day we the insane moronic racist pig lunatics at McCain-Palin rallies who call Obama a "negro", "terrorist", "Muslim fanatic", and on and on. Not even in the same league as people who mock Palin.

[jesslag]

Hey, if that word's good enough for John McCain....

[sascha_b]

Hey, if that word's good enough for John McCain....

Yeah, must be okay with his followers....if it's good enough for Cindy McCain, why not Sarah Palin?

[bidred73]

Yeah, I don't think a handful of hipsters with poor judgment are really a threat. The word they use to describe her is clearly an insult, and possibly even a sexist insult (although I have used the word myself to describe certain people who have a Y chromosome), but it's nothing remotely as bad as what we're seeing at McCain rallies. I don't even know how you can compare the two.

I think the statement that it is on "both sides" is patently false. There are a handful of people on the Obama support side who cross the line by making derrogatory or sexist remarks, but day after day we the insane moronic racist pig lunatics at McCain-Palin rallies who call Obama a "negro", "terrorist", "Muslim fanatic", and on and on. Not even in the same league as people who mock Palin.

Odd I know but, I beg to differ with you. Hate is on both sides. Anyone can go to youtube and see just about any sort of hate spewed for both candidates mentioned. As I said, it is unexusable.

Any person with a camera can interview people exiting and pick the worst to prove a point. After the hate was spewed from these "racist pig lunatics, the only things I heard the crowd as a whole, chanting were "drill baby drill" and "sarah", not racist, vile chants.

I stand by my statement that they are NOT the norm on either side of this battle. These kinds of threads perpetuate the hate IMHO.

[LindaK]

Considering the TrooperGate issue, doesn't it strike folks as odd that the VP candidate's spouse is campaigning? I don't know....would that be a first?

Looks like conservatives could get two for the price of one. Odd..... This one bugs me too. Todd Palin is not the elected Governor yet those under Palin have complained that 50% of the time he is sitting at her desk, she also sends him on state funded trips - now they're complaining those trips were nothing more than lobbying trips for the governor. Todd Palin also reviewed and cut the state budget -- NOT his job. Now I'll give him this much -- he is a very nice looking guy, is probably far more intelligent than wife too, it’s hard to believe Saracuda saw fit to cheat on him.

[LindaK]

Crazies are on both sides of these elections. They are not the norm for either. I don't condone any of this. It is all vile and disgusting.

BTW.. nobody was outraged at the attire of Obama supporters.
Why not?


http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/obama-supporters-wearing-sarah-palin-is-a-c-tee-shirts/

Just told someone this morning that this stuff is gonna get worse in the next few weeks as we near the finale. Sad but true. Those are Hillary supporters, what makes you think they are Democrats or even Liberals? Even FOX supported Hillary.

[Faulkner99]

Odd I know but, I beg to differ with you. Hate is on both sides. Anyone can go to youtube and see just about any sort of hate spewed for both candidates mentioned. As I said, it is unexusable.

Any person with a camera can interview people exiting and pick the worst to prove a point. After the hate was spewed from these "racist pig lunatics, the only things I heard the crowd as a whole, chanting were "drill baby drill" and "sarah", not racist, vile chants.

I stand by my statement that they are NOT the norm on either side of this battle. These kinds of threads perpetuate the hate IMHO.

You're upset because some people wore shirts which used a word that John McCain himself has reportedly used? Irony, at its finest.

No, you're absolutely wrong on this one. I challenge you, or anyone for that matter, to find any amount of inflammatory hate as vile as what we've seen from McCain-Palin rallies at Obama ones. You won't, because the tone and message are positive. His and Biden's rallies are not breeding grounds for white supremacists to come forward. This is absolutely the norm at McCain-Palin events, or else we wouldn't see footage like this EVERY SINGLE DAY coming out of one of their rallies. Chants of "Kill him!" or "Terrorist!" I mean, come on, some batty old lady actually said to McCain, point blank, on camera and on microphone that Obama is Arab. She's a hateful, xenophobic, racist piece of garbage, and the footage from McCain rallies shows her ilk turning out in droves. These are isolated events. On OLS alone there are links to at least thirty or forty such people. That's not coincidence.

How anyone can compare these hateful racist statements to what you'd find by some anti-Palin protestors is beyond.

I get why you say that threads like this "perpetuate the hate", it's because you're rightly embarassed at seeing how McCain and Palin supports conduct themselves. I don't blame you. I'm embarassed for all of you that McCain went on national television during a debate and said that he was proud of the people at his rallies. He should have spoken out. Then again, maybe if he did, turnout would drop.

[LindaK]

There's no comparison between t-shirts and white supremacists. ... t-shirts worn by who knows who, yet posted on a disgruntled Hillary (supporters) website supporting McCain. Surprise, surprise.

[Faulkner99]

... t-shirts worn by who knows who, yet posted on a disgruntled Hillary (supporters) website no less.

Oh man, I didn't even notice it was on a pro-Hillary site. Yeah, no telling where that came from.

Frankly, I'm not surprised you don't hear of more vile coming out of Obama supporters. The whole campaign has been run differently. The tone has been so much more positive - the message is hope and change. The most you see is maybe snark - there's a Facebook page called "I have more foreign policy experience than Sarah Palin" that's pretty funny. But yeah, you're not going to see anything like what you see with the McCain-Palin people.

[jesslag]

Oh man, I didn't even notice it was on a pro-Hillary site. Yeah, no telling where that came from.

Frankly, I'm not surprised you don't hear of more vile coming out of Obama supporters. The whole campaign has been run differently. The tone has been so much more positive - the message is hope and change. The most you see is maybe snark - there's a Facebook page called "I have more foreign policy experience than Sarah Palin" that's pretty funny. But yeah, you're not going to see anything like what you see with the McCain-Palin people.

Today I joined the"Joe The Plumber Has More Experience Than Sarah Palin" group on Facebook.

[LindaK]

Odd I know but, I beg to differ with you. Hate is on both sides. Anyone can go to youtube and see just about any sort of hate spewed for both candidates mentioned. As I said, it is unexusable.

Any person with a camera can interview people exiting and pick the worst to prove a point. After the hate was spewed from these "racist pig lunatics, the only things I heard the crowd as a whole, chanting were "drill baby drill" and "sarah", not racist, vile chants.

I stand by my statement that they are NOT the norm on either side of this battle. These kinds of threads perpetuate the hate IMHO. "He did it too," is that the best ya’ll can come up with? McCain and Palin rallies are dredging up the worst this country has to offer, and you think a photo of four morons willing to have their pictures taken wearing a t-shirt with McCain’s favorite derogatory word describing women is comparable. Hardly.

[bidred73]

You're upset because some people wore shirts which used a word that John McCain himself has reportedly used? Irony, at its finest.

No, you're absolutely wrong on this one. I challenge you, or anyone for that matter, to find any amount of inflammatory hate as vile as what we've seen from McCain-Palin rallies at Obama ones. You won't, because the tone and message are positive. His and Biden's rallies are not breeding grounds for white supremacists to come forward. This is absolutely the norm at McCain-Palin events, or else we wouldn't see footage like this EVERY SINGLE DAY coming out of one of their rallies. Chants of "Kill him!" or "Terrorist!" I mean, come on, some batty old lady actually said to McCain, point blank, on camera and on microphone that Obama is Arab. She's a hateful, xenophobic, racist piece of garbage, and the footage from McCain rallies shows her ilk turning out in droves. These are isolated events. On OLS alone there are links to at least thirty or forty such people. That's not coincidence.

How anyone can compare these hateful racist statements to what you'd find by some anti-Palin protestors is beyond.

I get why you say that threads like this "perpetuate the hate", it's because you're rightly embarassed at seeing how McCain and Palin supports conduct themselves. I don't blame you. I'm embarassed for all of you that McCain went on national television during a debate and said that he was proud of the people at his rallies. He should have spoken out. Then again, maybe if he did, turnout would drop.


Please don't speak for me. I am not embarrassed by a handful of nuts. I am more embarrased by those who cannot/will not see, that hate and discourse of any kind are unacceptable toward any person for any reason. It is only justified if we want it to be.

[LastLaugh]

I don't like the fact that Obama thinks us white people are trash, because we're not
That lady needs to take a look around her, because some of her compatriots are.

[LastLaugh]

Considering the TrooperGate issue, doesn't it strike folks as odd that the VP candidate's spouse is campaigning? I don't know....would that be a first?



Looks like conservatives could get two for the price of one. Odd.....
In this age of economic uncertainty shouldn't we all be looking for bargains. Although even with BOGOs cheap doesn't always mean a bargain.

[LastLaugh]

There's no comparison between t-shirts and white supremacists.
There is, but the white supremacists win out by a landslide.