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hort1
April 13th, 2005, 11:27am
DeLay asks peers to blame Democrats
Embattled House majority leader appeals to GOP senators

WASHINGTON - House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, hoping to hold support among fellow Republicans, urged GOP senators Tuesday to blame Democrats if asked about his ethics controversy and accused the news media of twisting supportive comments so they sounded like criticism.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7488485/

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Now, did Tom Delay attend the George Bush School of Personal Responsibility, or vice versa?

Oh well. At least Trent Lott is supporting Delay. That's.....something.

marilyn lux
April 13th, 2005, 11:49am
Wow I THOUGHT that what Santorum was saying wasn't quite in sync when I was listening to his remarks and now I find they were all twisted!!! Darn liberal elite media and their sorry agenda.

So now that this is all cleared up, did Delay do the explaining that Santorum suggested?

Aisling
April 13th, 2005, 1:52pm
Didn't DeLay say God sent him Terri Schiavo to rescue him from the plague of Democrats? He blew that so now he'll try to get his brethren to support his lies? Indeed the same school of responsibility that dubya attended.
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, hoping to hold support among fellow Republicans, urged GOP senators Tuesday to blame Democrats if asked about his ethics controversy and accused the news media of twisting supportive comments so they sounded like criticism.

Faulkner99
April 13th, 2005, 1:57pm
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050413/ap_on_go_co/delay_contract_website_4
To House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, the Republican Party's "Contract With America" ranks right up there with the Magna Carta, Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights among the "great documents of freedom."

Is he serious? He really sounds like a megalomaniac.

syzygy
April 13th, 2005, 1:59pm
If you can't play by the rules, rewrite them. Then call fouls on everybody else. Classy.

Faulkner99
April 13th, 2005, 2:00pm
Oh well. At least Trent Lott is supporting Delay. That's.....something.

And what support it is:

"I hope he survives, and I hope he will stay in there and do his job," said Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss.

"The power of prayer is the only thing that will sustain you" in the circumstance DeLay is in, Lott added, and he spoke disparagingly of any Republicans who fail to stand by the Texan.

"That's the problem, you know, Republicans eat their own. ... Democrats stand by their own until hell freezes over," said Lott, who was ousted as Senate majority leader two years ago after making controversial race-based comments at a birthday party for the late Strom Thurmond.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/10/politics/main687042_page2.shtml

What an affectionate way to refer to your own party. They "eat their own". Doesn't inspire much confidence, does it?

And what's up with this "power of prayer" business? Why not, instead of praying, I don't know, stop commiting ethics violations in the first place?

Aisling
April 13th, 2005, 2:12pm
I'm not going to play the "start a new thread for a related rude article" game anymore, so will just note this information here. Another thread shows Free Republic stating that Barbara Boxer paid her son $150,000 in one year for campaign work. I'd like to see some backup documentation for this.
Add Barbara Boxer to the list of congressional members who have families on the payroll. In 2002, Boxer paid her son $150,000 for professional services, more than any DeLay family member earned in a single year.

This Washington Post article cites a NY Times story that provides somewhat different information. Do DeLay's wife and kids own a consulting firm or provide some other professional service?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33625-2005Apr7.html
For the record, the story does say in the fifth graph that "several members of Congress employ family members as campaign managers or on their political action committees," although advocates say the payments to the DeLay relatives were "unusually generous." The Times story also mentions Democratic Rep. Howard Berman paying 50K to a consulting firm owned by his son and Barbara Boxer turning over 15K to a consulting firm run by her son.

LastLaugh
April 13th, 2005, 2:56pm
And what's up with this "power of prayer" business? Why not, instead of praying, I don't know, stop commiting ethics violations in the first place?
Delay was praying he didn't get caught, which proved ineffective. Now he has to pray that his colleagues don't turn on him. With the dirty laundry he could air, regarding campaign contribution violations, I think he can rest easy.
Sidenote:Rick Santorum was a benificiary of these illegal schemes.

mgkamish
April 13th, 2005, 3:32pm
"And what's up with this "power of prayer" business? Why not, instead of praying, I don't know, stop commiting ethics violations in the first place?"

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

LastLaugh
April 13th, 2005, 4:52pm
Because with the Power of PrayerŽ, All ethical violations are cleansed in the blood of the lamb. Hey if God isn't going to sweat it, why should anyone else.

carogonza
April 13th, 2005, 10:23pm
Can we say amen brothers and sisters?!! :laugh:

snookers
April 15th, 2005, 1:36am
Here's a handy site devoted to Tom DeLay and his "House of Scandal"....(it should be "Scandals"). You can read all about them here AND find out how "entangled" your Republican Representatives might be/probably are with DeLay.

http://houseofscandal.org/
Jack Abramoff, the lobbyist under federal investigation for an elaborate $80 million casino scam, recently went off on his former friend and ally, Tom DeLay. As quoted in Newsweek...

"Everybody is lying... Those S.O.B.s... DeLay knew everything. He knew all the details."

If true, this would mean DeLay is fully entangled in one of the most spectacular lobbying scams ever perpetrated; which makes his recent rhetoric towards his fellow Republicans all the more troubling. As the Washington Times reported, Tom DeLay and his allies have declared that the litmus test for a true Republican is how tencaciously they defend Tom DeLay.
http://houseofscandal.org/latestnews.html

moggiebaby53
April 15th, 2005, 8:56am
Will this guy be bought off with a congressional job, or will he be eliminated completely? Stay tuned for further developments!! :frown3:

MrDave
April 15th, 2005, 6:48pm
This guy is flipping insane. Power went to his head, I tell ya.

Even my favorite Rep here in Colorado Tom Tancradufusaholeidiotscumbucketpunk says Delay should resign.

Aisling
April 15th, 2005, 7:25pm
This guy is flipping insane. Power went to his head, I tell ya.

Even my favorite Rep here in Colorado Tom Tancradufusaholeidiotscumbucketpunk says Delay should resign.
I think you should respect the fact that the congressman formally known as Tom Tancredo has opted for Truth in Advertising with his new name. :halo:

JarnocanME
April 19th, 2005, 7:11am
From this week's Newsweek:( sort of relates as to Delay's overall unscrupulous behavior)
Judge Sandra Day O'Connor said she was surprised at all the violent threats she received. "I don't think the harsh rhetoric helps," she told the crowd. "I think it energizes people who are a little off base to take actions that maybe they wouldn't otherwise take."
O'Connor said harsh political rhetoric could spur violence against the nation's judges, offering a veiled response last night to some national figures who in the past week have blasted the courts for failing to intervene in the case of a severely brain-damaged Florida woman.
Speaking before a crowded auditorium at Goucher College in Towson, O'Connor said she never anticipated her work as a judge would be accompanied by violent threats and said "thoughtful citizens" should demand an end to fiery extremism on either end of the political spectrum....
Political leaders, most prominently House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, said the nation's courts would have to answer for Schiavo's death.
... 'We don't want to have this from either extreme, so let's move on.'" http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/04/oconnor-says-religious-right-hate.html

'Whatever the market will bear' seems to govern not just our economy but also the behavior of the right wing extreme Whatever they can get away with any lie, cheating, intimidation- nothing seems to matter-as long as it sustains them financially and in their lust for power.
They just let the lies fly, in their defense and even more to attack their 'enemies' (all who disagree); So I doubt $15,000 is more then any member of the Delay family made in a year BTW! :rolleyes:

JarnocanME
April 19th, 2005, 7:20am
Power of PrayerŽ like the registered trade mark of the Republican party so true-as it relates to the dangerous and selfrighteous games being played. I would think sincere Christians and republicans would be appalled.

mgkamish
April 19th, 2005, 11:12am
Have y'all been reading Doonesbury this week? It's a political death watch on DeLay. Hysterical.

hort1
April 20th, 2005, 9:50pm
England is in the midst of elections. The Labour Party has promised to " put law and order in the spotlight with a pledge to cut crime by 15% by 2008 if they are re-elected."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/vote_2005/frontpage/4466959.stm


It takes a whole political party to accomplish this? We could accomplish the same thing here, tomorrow, if Tom Delay just doesn't show up for work.

mgkamish
April 20th, 2005, 10:15pm
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

carogonza
April 20th, 2005, 11:19pm
England is in the midst of elections. The Labour Party has promised to " put law and order in the spotlight with a pledge to cut crime by 15% by 2008 if they are re-elected."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/vote_2005/frontpage/4466959.stm


It takes a whole political party to accomplish this? We could accomplish the same thing here, tomorrow, if Tom Delay just doesn't show up for work.
:rofl3:

tncorgi
April 20th, 2005, 11:35pm
DeLay sent a rambling, 2,500-word screed to his constituents explaining away his troubles. The blame, of course, was on Democrats and the evil media.

breaks down the email, by the numbers:

0: References to DeLay ally and corrupt lobbyist Jack Abramoff
25: Number of times the email portrays DeLay opponents as "partisan" or politically-motivated

0: References to high-profile criticisms from the Wall Street Journal, David Brooks, Newt Gingrich, Bob Dole, Reps. Christopher Shays and Tom Tancredo, and at least ten conservative ex-congressmen

4: Number of times the email claims that the media is treating him unfairly.

4: Number of times the same email quotes major media sources to purportedly bolster DeLay's case.


....2538: Total number of words

1273: Words devoted to complaining about other people's conduct

Also nothing in the letter about "personal responsibility".

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/4/19/171532/219

aila
April 20th, 2005, 11:46pm
tom delay is willing to be investigated by the ethics committee if the democrats will agree to the rules change of the ethics committee.

i haven't heard anyone mention the word blackmail, but that sure as hell is what it is, and that is meaning of IS.

Nape
April 20th, 2005, 11:50pm
Have y'all been reading Doonesbury this week? It's a political death watch on DeLay. Hysterical.

Thanks for the tip. I just caught up on them. :laugh:



"I am the federal government."

-- Tom DeLay, on being informed it was illegal to smoke a cigar in a government building

carogonza
April 21st, 2005, 6:56am
DeLay sent a rambling, 2,500-word screed to his constituents explaining away his troubles. The blame, of course, was on Democrats and the evil media.

breaks down the email, by the numbers:

0: References to DeLay ally and corrupt lobbyist Jack Abramoff
25: Number of times the email portrays DeLay opponents as "partisan" or politically-motivated

0: References to high-profile criticisms from the Wall Street Journal, David Brooks, Newt Gingrich, Bob Dole, Reps. Christopher Shays and Tom Tancredo, and at least ten conservative ex-congressmen

4: Number of times the email claims that the media is treating him unfairly.

4: Number of times the same email quotes major media sources to purportedly bolster DeLay's case.


....2538: Total number of words

1273: Words devoted to complaining about other people's conduct

Also nothing in the letter about "personal responsibility".

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/4/19/171532/219
If protecting crooks and scumbags is what the Republican party is all about, thank god I am not involved with them. I still can't believe this man isn't in jail. :worry: