Poll shows dwindling support for Iraq war - compares to Vietnam

[MrDave]

Please check the links - they have some graphical data that is easier to read.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/28/opinion/polls/main614605.shtml

Here is a summery of sorts:

ONE YEAR LATER

Bush job approval
Now 46%
One year ago 67%

Bush approval on Iraq
Now 41%
One year ago 74%

Bush approval on handling terrorism
Now 60%
One year ago 79%

Bush tried enough diplomacy with Iraq
Now 34%
One year ago 67%

Bush too quick to use force in Iraq
Now 61%
One year ago 31%

U.S. efforts to stabilize Iraq going well
Now 38%
One year ago 72%

U.S. efforts to stabilize Iraq going badly
Now 60%
One year ago 24%

Iraqis are grateful to U.S.
Now 38%
One year ago 53%

Iraqis are resentful of U.S.
Now 48%
One year ago 26%

Iraq war improved U.S. image in Arab world
Now 10%
One year ago 34%

Made image worse
Now 71%
One year ago 44%

Iraq war major part of war on terror
Now 38%
One year ago 53%

Iraq war separate from war on terror
Now 45%
One year ago 30%

Believe Saddam involved in 9/11
Now 39%
One year ago 53%

Iraq was an immediate threat
Now 32%
One year ago 58%

Iraq could have been contained
Now 48%
One year ago 32%

U.S. going in right direction
Now 36%
One year ago 56%

U.S. on wrong track
Now 55%
One year ago 36%

Believe U.S. economy is good
Now 55%
One year ago 44%

Bush approval on economy
Now 39%
One year ago 42%

[superchickee]

Compares to Vietnam? I don't think so. Not even close.

[MrDave]

Compares to Vietnam? I don't think so. Not even close.

Oh - I just put that in there for fun. They only had a couple poll results compared to vietnam, but there were very similar.

[Mary Beth]

736 dead U.S. soldiers as of today. I think that includes the ten killed today.

And this war will be the best recruiting tool al Qaeda could ever have.

[iggy1I]

How about we give this war a new name, since some people don't seem to like it when you compare it to Vietnam?
Vietsand?
Iraqinam?
Is that better?
:frown2:

[judyv01510]

I was in Vietnam. And day by day it is the same story. Will we ever learn. We can not fight a gorilla war, we don't know how and if we did know how we couldn't because we have to answer to those at home if we try.

Look at the poor soldiers heading for court martial for the prison atrocities. I don't approve but if we want to win that's the kind of thing we need to do.
All you people who said get um and that was 74% of you, what did you think this was a game. This is lives. This is a war, blood, guts, lives, cruelties, and atrocities.

This is not a face to face battle (same as Veitnam) it is a faceless enemy. Shoot now, man, women or 5 yr old, think later or you may be unable to shoot later.

Don't want to fight like that. Then we need to get out head between our knees, again.

[iggy1I]

Outsourcing torture now?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1206725,00.html

US military in torture scandal

Use of private contractors in Iraqi jail interrogations highlighted by inquiry into abuse of prisoners
<snip>
According to lawyers for some of the soldiers, they claimed to be acting in part under the instruction of mercenary interrogators hired by the Pentagon.
(snip>
One civilian contractor was accused of raping a young male prisoner but has not been charged because military law has no jurisdiction over him.
<snip>
One of the soldiers, Staff Sgt Chip Frederick is accused of posing in a photograph sitting on top of a detainee, committing an indecent act and with assault for striking detainees - and ordering detainees to strike each other.

He told CBS: "We had no support, no training whatsoever. And I kept asking my chain of command for certain things ... like rules and regulations."

His lawyer, Gary Myers, told the Guardian that Sgt Frederick had not had the opportunity to read the Geneva Conventions before being put on guard duty, a task he was not trained to perform.
I heard this guy Frederick is a prison guard here in the states? :frown3:

[dandylin]

I don't know what to post. I just don't know how to post an answer to this one. :shocked:

[advantage2000]

Ah....trust the Guardian to do our reporting and scandal-finding for us, as usual! :laugh:

[dandylin]

Ah....trust the Guardian to do our reporting and scandal-finding for us, as usual! :laugh:

Our media is doing a stellar job :laugh:

[iggy1I]

Pretty sad when you have to read sources from outside of your country, to get info about your country... :goofy:

[Txsweeper]

Pretty sad when you have to read sources from outside of your country, to get info about your country... :goofy:


http://www.online-sweepstakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130379

This was posted and commented on two days ago....CBS is the reporting media on it.

[advantage2000]

http://www.online-sweepstakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130379

This was posted and commented on two days ago....CBS is the reporting media on it.

Saying the CBS report is like the Guardian report is like saying an icecube is an iceberg. :cool2:

And it's not really CBS, but 60 Minutes II... (60 Minutes Lite).

And, the Guardian dug deeper, past the "we're outraged" response we got from our Military commanders.

[Txsweeper]

Saying the CBS report is like the Guardian report is like saying an icecube is an iceberg. :cool2:

And it's not really CBS, but 60 Minutes II... (60 Minutes Lite).

And, the Guardian dug deeper, past the "we're outraged" response we got from our Military commanders.


The Guardian took a story that is three days old and contained all the pieces. The original story was first broadcast three days ago. Give anyone three days and you'll see another side. Read today's headlines, read yesterday's headlines, then tell me the Guardian provided you with more information than the U.S. media provided.

[iggy1I]

http://www.online-sweepstakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130379

This was posted and commented on two days ago....CBS is the reporting media on it.
My comment was a generic comment on reporting by the US media. Notice I didn't link it to anything specific.
As per the article by The Guardian, would you have preferred I posted a US link? I happen to like The Guardian...