My 2 cents - and Goodbye!

[chances4me2]

Ok This is where I stand, There was a thread about the 1st part of Jan that I put in my 2 cents, and I was very upset and would not come back to OLS for about 2 weeks. Even since then, I can count on one hand how many times I’ve been back.
This is my feelings towards this site/forum:

Freedom Of Speech – This only applies to the ones that are non-religious.
They can say what they want, when they want, how they want, and it is fine. They can talk about how they do not believe in God, they can complain about us (religious people) because we talk about God, Jesus, Church, Heaven, Sinners, and ofcourse they get their way and the posts gets deleted.

Freedom Of Speech – Does NOT apply to Religious People, we are limited as to what we say, when we say it, and how we say it.

(Those two things right there tell me something about this board….)

Now I am usually pretty easy to get along with. I try my best to get along with everybody. But this is just one subject that’s very touchy with me.

As far as ATHEISTS go,

I Don’t Care if they don’t like that I speak of Jesus and/or God
I Don’t Care if they are against the 10 commandments at the Court House
I Don’t Care if they are against the saying God Bless America
I Don’t Care if they are against the saying In God We Trust
I Don’t Care if they are against School Prayer
I Don’t Care if they’re against our Pledge of Allegance having the words One Nation Under God

I Don’t Care about their opinions, their thoughts, their wants, or what they say.
It is not THEM that I will be speaking with or dealing with on Judgement Day, so therefore I am only Pleasing the one I WILL be answering to on Judgement Day, My Saviour.
I absolutely Refuse to change anything about myself, my life, my actions, or my Words I speak for these people. I will continue to live my life as I want with absolutely no regards to their feelings.

Now first of all, I know this post will be bashed – and that is fine, Because I will NOT be back to see what is said, I will not be back to online-sweepstakes.com at all. (online-sweepstakes.com has already proven to me where they stand on this issue, and NO amount of sweepstakes, or anything I could win or receive for free is not worth it) So it would be a waste of your time and energy. But do as you please, your time nor energy means nothing to me.

Second of all, I know a moderator will delete this post ASAP (which just goes to prove my point above). And when it IS deleted, there will be no sense in emailing me letting me know it was deleted, or that I’m no longer welcome back. That’s no problem at all.

[brirus17]

Bitter, party of one, please!?

[Krystal]

I find it too funny that chances4me2 is STILL signed in to OLS!!! So much for not using the site anymore! Whatever I am sure they will be back to enter sweeps and READ this! So have a good day chances!!

LMAO

[brirus17]

I find it too funny that chances4me2 is STILL signed in to OLS!!! So much for not using the site anymore! Whatever I am sure they will be back to enter sweeps and READ this! So have a good day chances!!

LMAO


HAHAHA! I love you! That has me laughing hard!

[sweepyhead]

Maybe we ought to establish the Church of OLS. Pastor: the Right Reverend Brent Riley. LOL!

Sweepy:sleep2:

[Schoenbaum]

As far as I am concerned you can be as religious as you want. I draw the line at those who feel that it is their right to force their own beliefs upon others. We all have the freedom to decide what we want to believe in, and we can share that with those who are similarly inclined. But you must respect the fact that others do not share in your belief system, will not convert to your belief system, and are not inferior to you because they choose to express themselves however they see fit.

Of course this does not stop you from starting your own web site and restricting membership to only those who feel the same way you do. Your own little cult...

[artmarcia]

Nothing is perfect for everybody. There are many of us that love it here. We will stay. You will go. That's life.<-------my attempt at zen reasoning.

And yes, I am a Christian, but I also think that other religions have merit. I'm one of those believers that think that there isn't just one path to truth.

[Krystal]

I see our friend has now left!

[mfine]

I see our friend has now left!

I Don't Care.

[jcthoms]

Well, sorry folks but I have to agree. You can say anything at all on this site but if you mention God ..watchout! One recent thread only intended for other christians to posts, but it turned into a fight. And the thing I keep hearing is that this is a sweeps site, if you want to talk about God go somewhere else. So, should we go somewhere else to talk about Days of our lives, and what to have for dinner, and what your favorite candy is, etc, etc, etc...... I've just decided if I don't like the content of a thread I don't read it. But that's just me, hope I didn't make anyone mad :rolleyes: J.T.

[ey_re]

Personally, if I see a thread that I think is out of hand, or that I particularly don't agree with or like.....

I just mind my own business, and ignore the thread. No one forces us to read it. Also, I respect people enough to realize they have different opinions, and it's OK! We aren't all supposed to think, talk, act, or dress alike. And I'm happy that we aren't.

[AprlHoney]

Hmmmmmm Lately it seems that a lot of these 'dissatisfied' members, are members with very few posts and/or are very new. I see a trend here.. or is it just me?

[ey_re]

I only have 30 posts, but I love it here!

[b5fan]

Live and let live...if you live somewhere else..oh well!!! I'll still be here trying to win stuff...agreeing with some stuff people post, disagreeing with others. That's the way life is. I guess I'm old enough to understand that if some people aren't. At the ripe old age of 33.

Good luck to everyone...even our wandering ex-members. :gvibes:

[gunnerclark]

I find it the the other way around. This is mainly a Christian oriented society so ones that have chosen another path in life are in for the hard lumps. I have never had anyone here say anything that upset me. People who get so insulted so easy are seeking in life to be a martyr.
I am a Christian and I find the people here bend over backwards to help each other with sweeping info, clues, answers, advice, and a shoulder to cry on when life getting to tough to take it alone. And whatever they choose to believe in does not matter, they are friends.

[Brent]

Ok This is where I stand, There was a thread about the 1st part of Jan that I put in my 2 cents, and I was very upset and would not come back to OLS for about 2 weeks. Even since then, I can count on one hand how many times I’ve been back.
This is my feelings towards this site/forum:

Freedom Of Speech – This only applies to the ones that are non-religious.
They can say what they want, when they want, how they want, and it is fine. They can talk about how they do not believe in God, they can complain about us (religious people) because we talk about God, Jesus, Church, Heaven, Sinners, and ofcourse they get their way and the posts gets deleted.

Freedom Of Speech – Does NOT apply to Religious People, we are limited as to what we say, when we say it, and how we say it.

(Those two things right there tell me something about this board….)

Now I am usually pretty easy to get along with. I try my best to get along with everybody. But this is just one subject that’s very touchy with me.

As far as ATHEISTS go,

I Don’t Care if they don’t like that I speak of Jesus and/or God
I Don’t Care if they are against the 10 commandments at the Court House
I Don’t Care if they are against the saying God Bless America
I Don’t Care if they are against the saying In God We Trust
I Don’t Care if they are against School Prayer
I Don’t Care if they’re against our Pledge of Allegance having the words One Nation Under God

I Don’t Care about their opinions, their thoughts, their wants, or what they say.
It is not THEM that I will be speaking with or dealing with on Judgement Day, so therefore I am only Pleasing the one I WILL be answering to on Judgement Day, My Saviour.
I absolutely Refuse to change anything about myself, my life, my actions, or my Words I speak for these people. I will continue to live my life as I want with absolutely no regards to their feelings.

Now first of all, I know this post will be bashed – and that is fine, Because I will NOT be back to see what is said, I will not be back to online-sweepstakes.com at all. (online-sweepstakes.com has already proven to me where they stand on this issue, and NO amount of sweepstakes, or anything I could win or receive for free is not worth it) So it would be a waste of your time and energy. But do as you please, your time nor energy means nothing to me.

Second of all, I know a moderator will delete this post ASAP (which just goes to prove my point above). And when it IS deleted, there will be no sense in emailing me letting me know it was deleted, or that I’m no longer welcome back. That’s no problem at all.
That's right up there in the 10 most asinine things I've ever heard anybody say.

You don't know what the hell you're talking about, not a clue. Did you ever stop to think that maybe there might be a lot more to it than what you thought? That maybe, just maybe there are some things that you just don't understand?

I'm sick and tired of you and anybody else who thinks they can publicly and blindly and falsely accuse the moderators and I of discrimination and think there shouldn't be any consequences. What would you do if I said you were prejudiced in front of all your friends and family while I was over at your house? Now what would you do if I was wrong?

prej·u·dice
An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
A preconceived preference or idea.
The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions. See Synonyms at predilection.
Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.
Detriment or injury caused to a person by the preconceived, unfavorable conviction of another or others.

"I Don’t Care about their opinions, their thoughts, their wants, or what they say."
"I will continue to live my life as I want with absolutely no regards to their feelings."

And you have the gall to accuse us of discriminating against you? Those two statements alone certainly tells me more than a couple of things about you. Sounds like you need to take a good, hard look in the mirror lady.

And just like whichever posts you were talking about weren't removed because they were Christian, I'm not throwing you out of here because you're Christian, I'm throwing you out of here because of you. You want a sermon? How about taketh some responsibility for thyself. Stop blaming others for your own problems.


Brent

[Heather]

Amen!

[Mike]

Where was I? How'd I miss all this excitement? Oh yeah, I don't really read much into the religious threads, that must be why....but we should have a forum just for banned members...that would be alot of fun to read. :laugh:

[renegade]

Never argue with a fool, people might not know the difference. Or is it "never argue with an idiot, it will bring you down to their level where they will destroy you with their expertise"? :nana:

[ravengoth]

:jump: In the immortal words of John Lennon..."Imagine".

[Rapunzel676]

I second that, Brent! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

[Tametaz]

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Brent you need to post more often!!!

[sweepyhead]

I think some of the problem may originate with the environment that many of these people come from. They likely live in a community with like-minded people; go to a church with other like-minded believers. Then they enter this forum with many different people with varying experiences, who don't see things exactly as they do. Their singleminded belief system, expressed as truth, not faith, quickly rubs people the wrong way.

I see a definite trend emerging: this board is being used to evangelize the non-belivers that I hadn't seen in the past. Since there are 30,000 members now (wow!) the temptation is very great to spread "the word," whether it is welcomed or not. Maybe religious topics should be banned completely from the boards. I don't know.

Good reply, Brent. You go, Reverend!

Sweepy:sleep2:

[doctorstrangelove]

WTG Brent. When you kick butt it stays kicked.


:cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2:

[bulldglit]

Amen Sleepyhead. :cheer7:

[Judithlh]

Brent, Thank you for making this a pleasant and enjoyable place to spend a little leisure time.
Sometimes, some people forget and leave their basic sense of courtesy behind, and need to be reminded that there can be and are differences in thinking and expressing those differences amongst such a large group. While I enjoy watching some of the livelier discussions develop, I hate it when they deteriorate into a shouting match of "I'm more right than anybody else."
So Thanks and thanks for providing a meeting place where members can reasonably discuss not only sweeps but other issues as well.

[melonhed]

Funny how free speech gets thrown around so much on the internet. Uh folks, the 1st amendment only protects you from the government penalizing you for your words. It has nothing to do with a membership required, private club . Like it or not, the owners/moderaters have every entitlement to remove any material they deem inappropriate as this site is not government property.

[stonybuff]

Where was I? How'd I miss all this excitement? Oh yeah, I don't really read much into the religious threads, that must be why....but we should have a forum just for banned members...that would be alot of fun to read. :laugh:
I just found this thread and was quite surprised! The originator should find a site that mirrors her beliefs totally and just stick with that. then she can spew all she wants to people who will agree with her. And yup, that banned members site would be a hoot!

[Txsweeper]

Would you answer me this:

Why do people like this have to make an exit! Why can't they just leave if they are not satisfied with where they are at???? If I'm in a store and I don't agree with the store's policies, I don't make a scene, I just grab my purse and leave. People like this need attention to be happy and that's sad!!!

In the future, if you're not happy, just leave! We probably won't even notice you're gone!!!

[carogonza]

Would you answer me this:

Why do people like this have to make an exit! Why can't they just leave if they are not satisfied with where they are at???? If I'm in a store and I don't agree with the store's policies, I don't make a scene, I just grab my purse and leave. People like this need attention to be happy and that's sad!!!

In the future, if you're not happy, just leave! We probably won't even notice you're gone!!!

Well said Txsweeper! I also find it funny how people feel the need to tell us they hate this site and it's horrible and blah, blah, blah and then make a production of leaving. WHo cares!

BTW, this site ROCKS!!!! ANd I want to tell everyone that I am STAYING! tee hee :laugh: :jump:

[Current]

That is what is known in message board lingo as "The Brave Exit Speech". It is a way to draw attention to ones' self and ones' personal agenda. The person who posts a Brave Exit Speech is also looking for responses to the Speech, such as people begging them to stay. What is sad is that lots of times, the person leaves, only to come back to the same board with a new screen name and it all starts over again.

If I had a dollar for every Brave Exit Speech I have read since I have been on the Internet, I would never have to work again. :nana:

[Fidget]

Woop! Brent go go go! You are the master of THIS domain and that means we all gotta at least try not to piss you off. There is no free speech here MUAHAHAHAHHAHHA! Only Brent speech :laugh: I'd have to say he's ALOT more lienent than most web masters. If ya dont like it shut up pack up and move on other wise drop a few dimes in the collection plate!

[JanMarie]

That's right up there in the 10 most asinine things I've ever heard anybody say . . . You want a sermon? How about taketh some responsibility for thyself . . .

OMG, that's the best laugh I've had tonight! Thank you, Right Reverend Riley! :halo:

[Maineiac]

Good Night Irene...

[§wêêþ ×-†rêmê]

quote:

"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengence and furious anger those who attempt to poison my brothers. And you will know my name is the lord, when I lay my vengence down upon thee."

[stonybuff]

what is that about and what brought it on?

[respira]

Wow! I never heard Brent tell someone off before. That was Great!

[TrishMc107]

Bye bye.

[velvet49329]

I think Brent handled that well.

I never understand people that claim to be religious and then begin to bash other people. I grew up in a religious family and no one in my family was ever so single-minded. It doesn't matter who you are,where you are,or what you believe in,there will always be people that differ in opinion. The sooner people understand that you can't make people believe just because you want them to,the sooner we'll all have a little more peace.

I feel like the whole religion and freedom of speech thing gets out of hand here. The mods and Brent do their best to keep it civil,but the members constantly get out of line,forcing them to crack down. I don't think they have anything against religious people,what they have is a problem with the way the people posting try to make their point. If I said "I love God!",I may get cracked on a time or two,but who cares?? Now,if I said " I love God and if you don't then you are the biggest scum on the face of the earth and are doomed to an eternity in hell!",I deserve whatever I get for that. It seems as if people think that their religion gives them the right to dismiss the feelings and ideas of others. Religion does not give anyone that right.

If you wanna love God,go ahead. If you wanna post about it in a fair and decent way,go ahead. If you wanna insist that everyone see things your way and bash anyone who doesn't,TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE!

[infinitybean]

The person who posts a Brave Exit Speech is also looking for responses to the Speech

Huh, and it's how many days later? And we are still talking about it?
Hey, it's a favorite 'cause it works.

[Scary Snarky toaD]

Bitter, party of one, please!?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


I think most of us are getting the point: Everybody has a right to live a faith but NOT to impose it on others.

I'm sure there are many good Muslims, Amish, Bah'ai, Buddhists, Hindu, Jews and many others who also love and practice their beliefs strongly -- ALSO reading the forums here and wanting to participate but being scared to death we'll jump down their necks if they mention Buddha, etc.

So that's why it's got to be a level playing field here for everyone. And sanctimonious speeches to the like of, "MY god is better than YOUR god," or "my truth is better than yours," sort of thing, blatantly insult ALL WHO THINK DIFFERENTLY. This is not a forum for subtly putting others down. We're here to work together as EQUALS and it can only stay this neat place if we remain EQUALS!!!!

You are right, you have freedoms. But your freedom stops where your nose stops and mine begins, and vice versa.


Thank you for allowing me again to do a sanctimonious rant, lol.

[Ravzie]

Well said, Toad. I was trying to make that same kind of point in my own tongue in cheek way in the Janet flash thread. I hope you and everyone else could read the sarcasm in my typing when I was talking about "My God can kick your God's butt"... In this country, the Christian religions are no longer "the end all to beat all" authority over everyone. "Facts" and "proof" from the King James version of the Bible unfortunately don't mean diddly to a whole lot of folks. I am not among those people, but I certainly know they are there!! They are challenging the Pledge of Allegience, the sculpture of the 10 Commandments in Alabama, etc. etc. etc. And our Constitution says they have the right to do so....

Current, you are so right about the brave exit, ha ha. Don't let the door hit you and your 21 posts in the rear on the way out, whatever your name was!!

[crueltiming]

....to keep one's mouth shut and have people think you're a moron,
than to open it and remove all doubt.
:halo:

[Snookums]

Where was I? How'd I miss all this excitement? Oh yeah, I don't really read much into the religious threads, that must be why....but we should have a forum just for banned members...that would be alot of fun to read. :laugh:


I agree that would be very entertaining! :laugh:

[Txsweeper]

it's better....

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....to keep one's mouth shut and have people think you're a moron,
than to open it and remove all doubt.

Amen!

[eskhaton]

Hmmmmmm Lately it seems that a lot of these 'dissatisfied' members, are members with very few posts and/or are very new. I see a trend here.. or is it just me?

Well, that likely would be because people tend to stick around only if they're enjoying the party. People who aren't enjoying themselves don't stick around for long. Sure, the people who've been here forever aren't the ones acting "dissatisfied": being here forever and being satisfied are synonymous. People who first visited this site two or three years ago, but thought it sucked . . . well . . . I imagine they went elsewhere.

BTW, I think this is a fantastic site. I'd been visiting it daily for over a year before I ever officially "joined." You know, a low number of posts and a recent "join" date don't always mean that the person in question is new to the site.